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Still working on the same camper plugin.

6/17/2022

Clicking the pics brings joy to my heart, and solace to my soul

Golden Rose.

I shouldn't even be writing this blog today; I've got so much to do, but I've come to a standstill trying to get the cord to plug the truck into the camper to work properly, but no matter what I try, I can't get all the lights to work. At the moment, I've got all the lights working except the turn signals. And if I turn on the left turn signal, both of the Lance taillights blink, and if I turn on the right turn signal, both Lance taillights turn off. And that's as close as I've had them working in two days, messing with the lights in 90° weather. In fact, the only reason I'm writing this today is I'm taking a break from working in the heat of the day.

I've installed RV plugs in different RVs, and it's always been annoying, but I've never had this many problems before, and I attribute it to the goofy Lance plug that doesn't match up with anything.

I was hoping I could get the lights working so I could drive the Lance camper the 75 miles to my storage room to pick up the parts for the bronco I removed last summer. But short of a miracle, it looks like that's not going to happen, and I'll probably have to drive my truck to get the bronco parts.

I've been so busy. Lately, I forgot to mention that I picked up my new glasses from the eye doctor's office the other day, and they sure are a big improvement over the ones I just relegated to emergency use only status. My old glasses were at least ten years old, maybe more, and I noticed it this last winter when I was having trouble seeing well enough to drive. But that's all over now; I'm used to the new specs already, so I can stop blaming all my problems on my inability to see clearly.

Theboondork

A soon to be flower.

Most of my day is spent standing beside my truck in the heat, trying to get the camper plug to work.

I can't believe this one simple plug has caused so much trouble for me.

15 Comments

Larry Worsham

6/18/2022 05:23:29 am

I didn't study the issue closely but maybe e trailer might have some solutions for you. I totally understand the frustration dealing with rv wiring. https://www.etrailer.com/question-353979.html

6/18/2022 05:33:40 am

may be these can help....... https://www.amazon.com/6-pin-7-trailer-adapter/s?k=6+pin+to+7+pin+trailer+adapter

Tom

6/18/2022 07:27:50 am

Thank you for that info Larry. I've been using etrailer for years, they were a handy way to get parts for the Arctic Fox after I went full-time, no matter where I was.

I looked at those Lance camper adapters on etrailer before I started this rewiring project and when I saw that it was going to take several weeks to mail it to me, I decided I would just rewire it myself, after all, how hard could it be?

Well, by the second day, I found out how hard it could be, and wished I had ordered one no matter how long it took. By the way I used the pictures of the Lance adapter on etrailer to rewire my Lance, and couldn't get that way to work either.

Tom

Ken link

6/18/2022 09:49:59 am

I had a lot of fun with my Lance also. It had been changed to a 7 pin plug by the original selling dealer, who also put the 7 pin socket in the owner's truck. When I plugged it in to my truck nothing worked. I found there are at least 3 different wiring 'standards' for the 7 pin pug: 1 for RVs, 1 for cargo trailers, and 1 for semi's. The Lance was wired for the cargo trailer setup (by the RV dealer!). My truck was wired for the RV setup.

It may be that the wiring shown on etrailer is the cargo trailer setup.

Good luck, you will need it!

Kennyd

6/18/2022 12:08:20 pm

Might not be a bad idea to trace out the tail light and brake light wires. The previous owner may have been messing around in there and got things crossed up

6/18/2022 02:56:20 pm

Thank you for that information Ken, that's a lot of different possibilities to contend with. I've rewired a couple of normal seven pin plug-in hookups before but never a Lance or run into anything like this before. I haven't completely given up yet, but I did look on the Internet for a mobile RV repairman in my area; just in case, and the repair man would have to be mobile because I can't go driving around with no lights.

I like the Lance, and I can tell right off the bat that its put together much better than the bronco is, and it's also four season rated with double pane windows and extra insulation so there won't be any cold breezes blowing through it like the bronco last winter.

And for some strange reason now that I need my multimeter to trace the wires, I can't find it anywhere, I'm sure I'll run into it sooner or later... When I no longer need it.

Tom

KennyD

6/18/2022 11:32:30 pm

No matter the little problems, I am really glad you got the Lance. Here's to a lot more boondocking in future for you.

6/19/2022 07:21:39 am

I'm really glad I got it to, and I can't wait till I can start turning it into a boondocking machine, it bothers me to look up on the roof of an RV and not see a bunch of solar panels.

I can see a lot of potential in it to live the kind of life I love, so far it appears it will solve all the problems I had living in the bronco last winter, and still give me the mobility to stay when and where I please, with a lot more comfort than the bronco could ever have.

Tom

6/19/2022 04:03:35 am

I did my usual poking around to avoid going out in the heat and discovered a 2013 manual for a Lance Camper. It has a plug wiring diagram in it. I don't know how to get you a pdf but you might try searching in google for 2014 Lance 825 manual. You probably have this but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Good Luck!!

6/19/2022 04:09:33 am

I'm back....I was able to copy the Lance wiring code for a 2013 camper....can't get ya the picture but hopefully this helps. When I've been stuck by the road rewiring a trailer it is usually the ground that's causing me problems......

COLOR GAUGE FUNCTION
Black 8 12-volt power
White 8 Ground (-)
Green 14 Running Lights
Red 16 Left Turn Signal
Brown 16 Right Turn Signal
Yellow 16 Back-up Lights

Good Luck!!

6/19/2022 07:53:02 am

Thank you for that information with the diagram of the Lance plug-in Larry, I have seen that before, in fact I think I've seen about every diagram of Lance plug-ins on the Internet, and so far nothing is working for me. So I'm doing what I usually do when I can't figure things out, I set that problem aside and deal with other problems, which usually clears my mind and makes me return with a new approach to my problem which I hadn't thought of before.

So in this case, since I've retrieved all the broncos parts from my storage room yesterday, I've got to put the bronco back together, and get it all prettied up so it can find a new home with folks that love to watch the top go up and down.

I want, and need to get the Lance working properly because it's going to be my new home and having my home working the way it should is very important to me. I don't think I can fully relax until the Lance is at least capable of being driven around, because only then can I finally call it a home. So keep up the good work Larry, any suggestions or ideas are always appreciated.

Tom

Thomas

6/19/2022 05:41:11 pm

IMO, your wiring problem is probably a faulty ground. I'm no expert, but I've been working on RVs for 50 years. Good luck tracking down the issue.

6/19/2022 06:16:15 pm

50 years of working on RVs sure sounds like an expert to me. And you're right, faulty grounds is a very common source of 12 volt problems, and that may very well be one of my problems. But I've just about given up trying to figure this out for myself, next week I may have to call in the cavalry, or at least an electrician that knows what he's doing, because I obviously don't.

Tom

6/20/2022 12:38:03 pm

If you will pay for my travel and accommodations, I'll consider coming to Colorado to help...but I'm too lazy to help much...perhaps I will just supervise.

6/20/2022 02:57:28 pm

You shouldn't fly out here, because they're having all kinds of problems with the airlines now, but hitchhiking is a good way of getting around, and it won't cost nearly as much.

Accommodations while here would be in the bronco camper of course, but you might consider bringing a fan because it's really hot in the bronco now days.

I'm afraid the position of "too lazy to be of much help," was filled by me years ago, but leaves the position of supervisor wide open... But you'll have to find somebody to supervise pretty quick because I just quit.

Tom

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